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The femme fatale seduces her lovers with her beauty and charm, but the sexual allure I think is the characteristic that bonds her victims the most in a deadly and compromising relationship. For some reason, she hypnotizes her victims, sometimes more than one at the same time, attracting them gradually, but inexorably, in a situation they can escape only with extreme actions and outcomes. She builds slowly and scientifically, an asymmetrical relationship where signals of confirmation of her affection alternate with denials. She has a sort of network where victims are monitored and managed to make sure they do not escape. She does all she can not to let them free, including lying. Her lovers enter finally a state of dependence and obsession that she enjoys and of which she drives the dynamics that with time become more and more extreme. The desperation, exhaustion, anxious and obsessive phase of lovers is characterised by an unhealthy and overwhelming attachment that can cause irrational decisions. The final destructive phase involves feelings of self-blame and often anger. The deadly femme fatale has a complex personality, hard to recognize at first. When victims realize the situation, it may be too late. Similarly, the market seduces lovers with charm, beauty and the art of deception. The deadly outcome leaves victims with huge losses.

Marion Dreyfus writes:

Just because the vast preponderance of readers here is male is no reason to excoriate females — the description of f.f. goes way overboard. Most women are aware of their allure (it does not take much to excite randy males, which describes, given the chance, 95% of all the gender), but we do not spin these nets and traps — it is an anachronistic model, based upon the impotence of former females in insurance securities, investments and her own nested income. Absent the need to survive and ensure for her needs, these females melt into the tough, hard-working, capable, no-nonsense female of today. To the extent that women are again (arguable if so) 'femmes fatales,' it is because of the insecurity of the times. That is why skirts rise in lean times: Females are wont to finding and bonding with a future of plenty, not want, and the sexual signal is the come-hither to desirable males.

Indeed, if a woman does behave in this alluring, seductive pattern when a male is about, it compliments his status-quotient. Were he to be adjudged low in value, her interest would not be piqued, and her sexuality would be aimed elsewhere.

We all try to to survive. The devices and tools women have are mimicked in the insect and animal world models–these are meant to procure food and necessities–stop spinning the paradigm as if it were *sui generis* for no reason other than the gratification of the destroyed male.

Scott Brooks replies:

Just like women are often attracted to the rebels…..you know the old saying….good girls are attracted to the bad boys….men are often attracted to femme fatales. I dated a FF for a short time in college. I found myself attracted to her as she was obviously a "bad girl". The attraction didn't last long as I found I was not quite as "adventurous" as she wanted to be.But of course, today, the Mistress has her hooks in me and she's driving me crazy. But I live a well balanced life. My wife is a balance wheel, very well grounded and keeps me on the straight and narrow!

Now our very beautiful, very femine Dr. Dreyfus bemoans the use of the FF phrase…..sweet innocent Marion…..who, I'll bet, has gone hunting, fishing and shot more guns than most of guys on this list…..who did her stint in the IDF. Who has roamed the hostile streets of the middle east and who manages to navigate the often moody straits of the Type A middle aged successful men who inhabit this list……and yet…… does so with flair, feminity and grace.

Fair Marion has probably been in more dangerous situations than many on this list will ever be…..I like to think of her as our groups own private FF……a living character in an adventure novel…..so we get to have all the adventure (but only in our minds) with none of the danger!


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  1. jeff watson on April 18, 2009 9:37 pm

    My favorite place to see a F.F is at a poker table. Since most people have never had the experience of ever seeing a real good poker player in action, seeing a really good F.F. poker player in action is like watching Horowitz perform live, except the FF player will flirtatiously eviscerate you while making you think you’re something special. She will make you feel gallant, while your stack of chips ends up on her side of the table. There is a high level of skill to being a good female poker player in a man’s game, and all good female poker players have an extra edge due to the hormonal imbalance men exhibit around women. There was an earlier post on Daily Speculations about men taking increased risks in front of women, and at the poker table, men are exploited because of this character fault.

    Jeff

  2. Steve Leslie on April 19, 2009 8:19 pm

    I must speak to the erudite Prof Dreyfus, not to take Paolo Pezzutti literally. While I am confident Paolo is almost certainly invoking satire, I doubt he is misogynistic also.

    I would suggest you critique him on style rather than substance.

    I agree with Jeff that some women do use their s-xuality to seduce and overcome the weaker gender on the green felt. One professional who assuredly uses this to advantage is Clonie Gowen. Jennifer Harmon is quite small in stature and she displays meekness, but is willing to mix it up with the big boys and has won millions in cash games and in tournament action.

    As for men who use their personality to their advantage in poker are Daniel Negreanu. He likes to converse with others pleasantly and get to know them before destroying them in a nice way. Jerry Yang, former World Series of Poker main event winner, brings pictures of his children to the table and invokes his faith and prayer into the game during tournament action.

    So as one notices both genders use methods fair and unfair to disarm their opponents and relieve them of their chips.

    As for the market(s) it is no respecter of persons. I have seen it consume both Venus and Mars through my 30 plus years of experience. I also know those who have become centimillionaires and beyond by learning the rules of the game to accumulate great wealth.

  3. George Parkanyi on April 21, 2009 11:53 pm

    I just find it interesting that so many here think of the market as a mistress or femme fatale. Considering that probably 90% of the professional market participants are male (anecdotal assessment - I haven't counted), are you sure your mistress isn't a drag queen? Brings to mind the song Lola, by the Kinks.

    Cheers,
    George

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