Feb

25

 Your biggest opponent in trading is yourself. Has anyone heard this statement? It seems incredibly naive to me. Not surprisingly, I just read something like it posted on twitter. When I put in an order and get 3 shares filled, it is clear to me that someone is gaming the order. They get the info and then I don't get a real fill. On the other hand when I develop a strategy that qualitatively seems to anticipate stop or momentum buying, my buying is part of the force that pushes price to that level–releasing potential energy, one of the most useful concepts in trading. Everything has an impact. To think it is all just a "mental game against yourself" suggests that the market is mechanistic process vs. a competitive process, which is entirely wrong.

anonymous writes: 

This (not well documented) jab at mom and pop retail investors comes to mind: "Fidelity Reviewed Which Investors Did Best And What They Found Was Hilarious".

Ed Stewart writes: 

It reminds me of something I read in a poker book about one of the top cash game players (I'm not a poker player). He would supposedly call out to people considering a game, saying, "hey, come on over, we are playing all of your best games, imagine what a little luck could bring" very friendly, etc. I could see in a similar situation someone calling out, "Hey, if you master the mental game against yourself, the rest of us will hand you our money, we are just bystanders". 

anonymous writes: 

I believe that there is nothing inherently wrong or detrimental to a successful trading process from some form of self-awareness.

The problem is that it is very rarely quantified. This list has/had a resource in this regard, the esteemed Dr. Steenbarger.

One has had occasion to work through both of his main texts in isolation & in a more institutional setting. Regardless of ones view about this stuff, I would encourage all to read and think about their market approaches in the context of both books. He is a serious guy and performed some intense experimental tests upon himself in real time.

It is reasonable to assume that such help would be more suited to fundamental discretionary traders, but a more in depth thought process may expand that.

One whole heartily agrees that throwaway lines are useless ( much more so when transmitted through what may prove to be one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse- i.e TWTR.)

Leo Jia writes: 

I think ultimately the biggest hindrance if not the biggest opponent in anything is oneself or one's own mind. As you suggested that someone thinking that trading is all just a mental game against himself is wrong, you actually suggested that his thinking is his own opponent.

Is market mechanistic or competitive? I think it depends on the situation.

I tend to view market has the following participants in any day: a) bulls and bears, and b) primates. The former are big and have their decided views for that day or the following period. They mostly fight fiercely. The latter are small and are simply ready to join either the bulls' camp or the bears' camp at anytime depending on their own views of which side is stronger.

The fight between the bulls and the bears are competitive. But for the primates in this case, it is not competitive (or at least not in the same sense). To them, it is simply making a choice.

The bulls and bears both understand the nature and tendencies of these primates, so they try to take advantage of the latter whenever possible. So in this case, the primates have to compete with the big ones. This might only be possible when the two big sides are not fighting fiercely between themselves.

The primates are controlled by their innate nature of fear and greed (let's just say that the bulls and bears are less prone to fear and greed), so their combined behavior is quite predictable. So when either the bulls or the bears (when one side is absent or subdued) attack the primates, it is quite mechanistic.


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